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Offline David Megginson

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Rockcliffe airport closures
« on: March 03, 2017, 04:46:09 PM »
I'm still trying to decide how I feel about the Rockcliffe airport closures for revenue events. The closure this week didn't bother me, but seeing that the airport will be closed for a lot of June, in prime flying weather, makes me more uncomfortable.

I understand the tight spot the board is in, and appreciate that they're looking for new money sources, but the offer to give us temporary spots at Gatineau or Carp is pretty-much useless.  If I did that, this is what my June would look like:

  • Spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to Rockcliffe, fly the plane to another airport while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.
  • A few days later, spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to the other airport, fly the plane back to Rockcliffe while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.
  • A few days later, spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to Rockcliffe, fly the plane to another airport while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.
  • A few days later, spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to the other airport, fly the plane back to Rockcliffe while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.

In other words, the offer to give temporary tie-down spots at another airport is basically a zero, and I won't be surprised if there's not much uptake.

If this happens only rarely, I think I could cope—I don't fly all that often—but if it's a regular occurrence, I may need to base the plane somewhere else (with best wishes to RFC, of course).

How does everyone else feel?

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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 09:38:08 PM »
Quite aware of the closures occurring this summer. I was thinking about my colleagues at YRO. I am wondering what impact this may have during the summer on other commercial operations that use the airport. Most notably the helicopter and biplane rides out of the CASM. Whatever revenue the flying club is making, it better be more than full flying hours for the fleet and instructors. Not to mention cost of impact to private rentals. If space at YND becomes an option, they better be ready to pay top dollar because I'm sure space is at a premium.
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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2017, 08:16:34 PM »
What's the June schedule like exactly? Don't think I've seen it ... I didn't mind in the slower seasons ... but smack dead in summer??

So we won't have to worry about condo developers wanting to make money off the land, RFC will do that all on its own ... ?

Summer should be off limits ...

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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2017, 09:55:03 PM »
CYND is getting a lot of traffic and former RFC customers. My annual tie-down is $635 plus tax. I think that there are some places still available.

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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2017, 10:30:48 AM »
One thing about CYRO (and CYOW) is that I can get to them by bicycle (~10km each), and I don't have to fight Kanata or Gatineau traffic when I'm done a flight at the end of the afternoon. I'm still a bit nervous about going further out to CYRP or CYND, but I can see myself making the decision if there are many more airport closures during peak flying season.

As I said, I do understand the financial pressure that the club executive is under, and I'm also grateful that they've taken on those responsibilities, but in the end, they're not my problems. I want somewhere to tie down my plane, land/take off, and buy fuel. If CYRO stops being convenient for those things, then a longer drive for CYRP/CYND, or higher fees for CYOW, will start to make sense.

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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2017, 03:59:30 PM »
I'm still trying to decide how I feel about the Rockcliffe airport closures for revenue events. The closure this week didn't bother me, but seeing that the airport will be closed for a lot of June, in prime flying weather, makes me more uncomfortable.

I understand the tight spot the board is in, and appreciate that they're looking for new money sources, but the offer to give us temporary spots at Gatineau or Carp is pretty-much useless.  If I did that, this is what my June would look like:

  • Spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to Rockcliffe, fly the plane to another airport while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.
  • A few days later, spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to the other airport, fly the plane back to Rockcliffe while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.
  • A few days later, spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to Rockcliffe, fly the plane to another airport while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.
  • A few days later, spend an afternoon getting someone else to drive me to the other airport, fly the plane back to Rockcliffe while the person drives there, then have the person drive me home.

In other words, the offer to give temporary tie-down spots at another airport is basically a zero, and I won't be surprised if there's not much uptake.

If this happens only rarely, I think I could cope—I don't fly all that often—but if it's a regular occurrence, I may need to base the plane somewhere else (with best wishes to RFC, of course).

How does everyone else feel?

Slowly reading through some threads in this forum after having been gone for a while. Not aware about closures at YRO being so common, I understand during the big event days in summer though. Anyways, to address D. Megginson's logistical headache, there is another option too. You could drive to YRO in your own vehicle (and use it to go back home when you're done), and fly your plane to another temporary tie-down location. The way to get back to YRO where your vehicle is , is to hitch a ride in another plane. Easier said than done I know, but I'm sure it won't be hard to convince a friend to go up for a flight to fly you back. Even the renters and such, now the FTU may have rules against this, but it's been done before many times with other FTUs.

 EXAMPLE: Airplane departs CYOW for training flight to the practice area, some anomaly causes it to divert to CYRP and is stranded there until a mechanic can resolve the issue. Another 172 may already be in the area or is just departing CYOW, and on the way back, picks up the stranded student and instructor from CYRP.

Less driving required, can all be done in under an hour and you're all driving home shortly after in your own vehicles.


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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 03:09:42 PM »
Looks like the folks at Rockcliffe airport will be shutting down for at least one week in June. The 2 day event requires extensive work on the course of the spectacle followed by a few days of putting the airport back together.

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Re: Rockcliffe airport closures
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2017, 04:09:12 PM »
It does seem a bit odd to shut down the airport for street hockey during prime flying season! It's not exactly an important event, nor one that couldn't be easily held in a dozen other locations.

 

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